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Brightwayz @BrightwayzUK

Reported 2022-05-27 14:06:56

@LikeEngineer @BlondeHistorian @modacitylife @dbornat @SebDance @HSscorecard Yes! Just signed up today to have an exhibitor stand. Coming down the day before to go and explore the wonderful Hackney infra I’ve been reading about.

Jack @JMRacksalot

Reported 2022-05-26 20:03:02

@LikeeTheFRUIT Deep, deep down

ben2world @ben2world

Reported 2022-05-26 17:56:55

@LikeEngineer But we need to persuade some riders to slow down and think of the pedestrian. Paint SLOW on the lane? If you are already going slowly not a problem, if a touch fast it is at least a hint. Like bendy roads in the country where SLOW appears a lot

Andrew Jarman 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿🏳️‍🌈London @E7Drew

Reported 2022-05-26 16:03:57

@LonelyJoeParker @LikeEngineer If you undertake a vehicle already indicating to turn left you only have yourself to blame. You are supposed to slow down & stop if necessary. This was basic road sense whilst riding a motorcycle so why is a cyclist any different?

Andrew Jarman 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿🏳️‍🌈London @E7Drew

Reported 2022-05-26 14:24:37

@LonelyJoeParker @LikeEngineer Only cycle lanes with a solid white line along it. If it's a broken line it's only advisory & anyone can legally use the road surface within. Then cyclists must take additional care to avoid vehicles in front legally turning left across their path. #DecisionsHaveConsequences

Clive Durdle @Clivedurdle

Reported 2022-05-26 13:21:49

@LikeEngineer I am both parties here! A very slow wobbly and a trike rider. There is a real issue that cyclists are cycling far too fast in what is a real high risk zone. Due care and attention does apply to all way users. The other vector is that we have ***umed car collisions will happen 1

Tom Macdonald @NottingTom

Reported 2022-05-26 10:05:42

@E7Drew @Rendel_Harris @LikeEngineer If you are not there and I am not there, how does the fact you would act in this way help others. Its not really a solution to the problem is it? In very limited cir***stances perhaps.

Flying Cows @FlyingCows5678

Reported 2022-05-26 09:20:04

@gcvrsa @LikeEngineer This isn't black or white - just because some cyclists are going too fast, that doesn't mean that the infrastructure isn't part of the issue? It's forcing pedestrians onto a narrow section of pavement, alongside a narrow cycleway, with no warning of the crossing

Limerick Cycle Design @LkCycleDesign

Reported 2022-05-26 06:14:47

@__kbaker__ @HanneyDP @LikeEngineer @RantyHighwayman @JohnParkin28 That is my concern also with the current guidelines but I think the NCM approach could be amended to resolve this issue by introducing a DMURS type informal zebra with paving. https://t.co/LdPaVOOjS8

Dermot Hanney @HanneyDP

Reported 2022-05-26 05:12:45

@rossatkin @RantyHighwayman @briseglace @heather_m_gl*** @samclifford @lennartnout @LikeEngineer You’ve unnecessarily dismissed this https://t.co/9IFEN4QESw so no doubt nothing I can share will satisfy you. In any case you’ve provided no research to support your points but that doesn’t appear to disavow of your position so not sure it really matters for you.

Dermot Hanney @HanneyDP

Reported 2022-05-26 04:22:24

@rossatkin @RantyHighwayman @briseglace @heather_m_gl*** @samclifford @lennartnout @LikeEngineer This chart gives no context to wider issue of bus patronage throughout central London Why is it that Hackney, Islington, Camden, Westminster, Kensington & Chelsea, Lambeth, Southwark and Lewisham seeing similar falls to this corridor and TH’s as a whole? https://t.co/ydJxaK9XJe

Kevin Watt @KevinGSWatt

Reported 2022-05-26 02:02:50

@rrwholloway @LikeEngineer I agree they should slow down. But just a comment when your cycling you use energy to gain speed and you're reluctant to lose that momentum.

Alison 🛡 @AlisonLeanneC

Reported 2022-05-26 01:27:37

@LikeEngineer If you move the bus shelter so it's closer to the entry of the floating bus stop that gives a clearer sign to cyclist that they're entering a floating bus stop lane. It gives pedestrians more space to cross where is cyclist have had more time to slow down.

Alison 🛡 @AlisonLeanneC

Reported 2022-05-26 01:08:19

@FingerBoardLies @LikeEngineer But this doesn't seem to be an issue with children on bikes. All of the cyclist racing on this video or adults. Most look like hard-core commuters. I'm pretty sure a child cycling along this route would probably be more aware of the pedestrians.

James R Grinter @jamesrgrinter

Reported 2022-05-25 18:38:30

@Bennitron3000 @LikeEngineer @SpacePootler Like I said, the shared section approach satisfies no-one. A clear delineation between pedestrian and cycling areas would help everyone. A chicane, and narrower byp***, would easily slow cyclists down.

Annie Smith @Cappygolightly

Reported 2022-05-25 18:20:08

@LikeEngineer Interesting because many of London's "problem" narrow streets were built around the horse or horse & cart & no need for parking. Easier to adapt cities that were designed for cars.

sarah leadbetter @newdawn75

Reported 2022-05-25 18:15:06

@LikeEngineer Slowing down isnt going to stop vunerable pedestrian’s not feeling safe to walk on an pavement and being isolated because they cant get on an bus due to an bus byp***, do i ant my Guide dog to be injured

Tom Macdonald @NottingTom

Reported 2022-05-25 18:03:15

@E7Drew @Rendel_Harris @LikeEngineer That's fine, for you. And I would stop 100% so we could smile at each other and say have a good one. How does either solve the problem for other pedestrians?

Tom Macdonald @NottingTom

Reported 2022-05-25 18:01:24

@Bennitron3000 @LikeEngineer @SpacePootler I thought the same when I saw the op. It is probably the worse cycle lane I use, but you have to be an idiot not to slow down for the bus stops going up west hill. https://t.co/VHl2ZgYj9a

Gavin Cheyne @gavcheyne

Reported 2022-05-25 17:57:11

@LikeEngineer The zebra crossing is the problem here. There’s plenty of time to cross between bikes, and it’s unfair that cyclists should have to lose their momentum.

Red Zebra Crossing @RedZebra0

Reported 2022-05-25 15:48:51

@LikeEngineer Why would you ride your bike at pedestrians, there is a makeshift zebra crossing by the bus stop, that should tell anyone on a cycle path to slow down, it is also the law in the UK.

Thefatgirl @Thefatgirl5

Reported 2022-05-25 15:47:51

@LikeEngineer People may consider your ‘genuine question’ if there were children in the clip, or the cyclists had slowed down for the pedestrians!

PJ 🇯🇪 @jerriaisjanne

Reported 2022-05-25 14:49:41

@MikScarlet @Drew_Hyndman @LikeEngineer If the issue is that cyclists aren't stopping when they're legally required to, then the soution can't be legally requiring cyclists to stop. Cyclists running red lights is the fairly famous gripe from motorists & pedestrians.

Urban Immerser @Urban_Immerser

Reported 2022-05-25 14:13:11

@martynschmoll @LikeEngineer That's the problem with many of these things. The context and strategic network is just as important as the hot point.

Kevin Burke @BigFredOnABike

Reported 2022-05-25 13:48:37

@AndrewFS02 @LikeEngineer I agree that riders (in this one video) should slow down. But imagine, Andrew, if you would be so kind, a bus that dropped pedestrians off on an island with a lane of automobile traffic between them and safe pavement. I think you would say that this is a poor design.

Ross H @ZigZagWanderer0

Reported 2022-05-25 13:26:04

@LikeEngineer I think the main problem here is everything is too cluttered. Not enough space and too much street furniture makes everything seem messy and chaotic. In Copenhagen they have light controlled crossings for very busy cycle lanes to access the bus/metro islands.

(((b McPherson))) a 🚲'ng dad @muddybike

Reported 2022-05-25 13:18:11

@LikeEngineer There is no better solution, mostly because there is no real problem here 🙄 The expectation of people on bikes to stop at these crossings is itself unrealistic. As can be seen in the video people negotiate crossing & avoid collisions pretty successfully. Simply put it works 😑

heather glass @heather_m_glass

Reported 2022-05-25 11:54:38

@rossatkin @RantyHighwayman @briseglace @samclifford @lennartnout @LikeEngineer Mm. I don't think we disagree too wildly. I just hope highway authorities will really push for the 'make everything wider and take space from cars if needed' option and keep 'direct cyclists down meandering back routes' in their back pocket to be used only if really necessary.

Eric James @ejamesYYJ

Reported 2022-05-25 09:54:56

@LikeEngineer Same thing you would do with a roadway that needed to be calmed. The cyclists are moving too fast through this particular section so bump it back so there is a turn in with the obstacles along the side. This will force cyclists to slow down coming up to the cross walk.

Dermot Hanney @HanneyDP

Reported 2022-05-25 09:41:21

@rossatkin @RantyHighwayman @briseglace @heather_m_gl*** @samclifford @lennartnout @LikeEngineer “probably increase cycling” - Growth in cycling from protected routes is well do***ented. You’d do well read up on it further. https://t.co/nr8i5n4F5d Bus demand is down everywhere in central London, including the A11. Your guesswork is in no way comparable. https://t.co/3ASiL5o3hH

Karl Troy @KarlTroyLondon

Reported 2022-05-25 08:46:19

@rossatkin @RantyHighwayman @briseglace @heather_m_gl*** @samclifford @lennartnout @LikeEngineer Can't good design fix both issues?

Flying Cows @FlyingCows5678

Reported 2022-05-25 08:19:47

@1pluseipi @2_Wheeled_Wolf @PlasticPlanners @LikeEngineer this is my point, when you MUST stop hasn't changed, when you SHOULD stop hasn't changed, all that's changed is the wording of when you should. So no, the updates haven't made it clear that you HAVE to stop (the original point I took issue with).

Dermot Hanney @HanneyDP

Reported 2022-05-25 07:58:14

@rossatkin @RantyHighwayman @briseglace @heather_m_gl*** @samclifford @lennartnout @LikeEngineer Not sure what you’re trying to get at here but there’s a big difference between a direct observation ‘we built a new cycle track and look it’s working as observed trips rising’ vs indirect ‘oh look trips are down for bus, it must all be due to that cycle track there’.

Alan Glen @AlanG0210

Reported 2022-05-25 07:22:31

@KatyCycles @LikeEngineer Space can be a problem for infrastructure. Be glad that this lane already exists, other towns and cities have nothing. Cyclists cannot get reliant on speed, just like the drivers argument. Cycling is for enjoying, not rushing. Need to slow down to protect pedestrians at bus stops

@2_Wheeled_Wolf 🇪🇺 @2_Wheeled_Wolf

Reported 2022-05-25 07:21:53

.@FlyingCows5678 so here, have a read of this good blog on why under the old rules zebra crossings weren't as good. https://t.co/GZggWayzMN And the changes to the rules were to those like me who challenged the old rules in the consultation. @PlasticPlanners @LikeEngineer https://t.co/E7ZXXO6I7A

Bashful Bits @BashfulBits

Reported 2022-05-25 06:59:54

@LikeEngineer Eliminate the curb between cycle path and pedestrian area unify them with ramps on the cycle path. Currently, the two zebra stripes say slow down, while the continuous curb and uninterrupted cycle path say keep cycling fast. What am I missing?

GhostoftheCoalHewer 3.5% #UBI #FBPE @Abradacamera

Reported 2022-05-25 06:50:02

@ericsfraga @LikeEngineer "Sure but we can do better moving forward." Can we? Look around you. This country's a sorry mess of tribal antagonisms. You can't cure chicken pox by sanding down the spots. You need an inoculation programme.

Bryan RS @stripey_stripey

Reported 2022-05-25 06:41:57

@LikeEngineer Speed bumps are a nightmare for cyclists, but also a nightmare if you’re a sick person in a car, with a spinal problem, recovering from surgery etc. would so much prefer proper enforcement or narrowing.

Roger Merriman @rogermerriman

Reported 2022-05-25 06:33:14

@MikScarlet @LikeEngineer To be fair along top of Hounslow Heath going east is mostly as above, though not busy so never a issue. Going west the road has armadillos with gaps for the buses. Does seem to work. In that don’t get traffic moving over like you used to.

Kate Middleton @KateM45

Reported 2022-05-25 06:25:03

@LikeEngineer Why aren’t 2 way protected cycle lanes in the middle of the road rather than down one side? It’s better for cyclists and for pedestrians.

GhostoftheCoalHewer 3.5% #UBI #FBPE @Abradacamera

Reported 2022-05-25 06:15:39

@ericsfraga @LikeEngineer If you want to fix all that you'll need to go back in time to about 1970, and fix the UK's grisly confrontational political system. A society builds infrastructure that expresses the personality of its political culture.

Ross Atkin @rossatkin

Reported 2022-05-25 06:11:34

@RantyHighwayman @KarlTroyLondon @briseglace @heather_m_gl*** @samclifford @lennartnout @LikeEngineer We're much more likely to be able to fix those problems with good design than we are with the issues at that floating bus stop.

GhostoftheCoalHewer 3.5% #UBI #FBPE @Abradacamera

Reported 2022-05-25 06:09:33

@LikeEngineer This is where you have the cart before the horse. The built environment has its foundation in the culture of the people who construct it. The Dutch environment is created by people more inclined to be chilled, slow down and be nice to each other. The UK's people, not so much.

Dermot Hanney @HanneyDP

Reported 2022-05-25 05:43:01

@rossatkin @RantyHighwayman @briseglace @heather_m_gl*** @samclifford @lennartnout @LikeEngineer Nearly all Hackney cycle network on local roads yet bus demand down 10%. It’s not cycling what done it. Also London Overground fully opened across borough during that period and has extracted bus demand. Are we gonna say don’t open rail as it’ll hurt bus demand?

Matt Whyndham @whyndham

Reported 2022-05-25 05:40:38

@LikeEngineer Tweaks: Expand the zebra deck (make more room for feet, esp where the doors are). *And* nudge (studs?) the feet away from the blue stuff. Have amber flashers on when the bus is there, about 15s ride down the road.

Stef Benstead @StefBenstead

Reported 2022-05-25 05:27:30

@lennartnout @RantyHighwayman @LikeEngineer Netherlands avoid this kind of crossing-over between bicycles and pedestrians, which is a flawed attempt at dealing with the mixing of buses and bikes. Netherlands separate bikes and vehicles, so this issue is much less likely to arise in the first place. https://t.co/uyGzx2cAgB

Ruth Fletcher 🔶 @mihe2000

Reported 2022-05-25 05:20:21

@LikeEngineer Bonus tweet: Lack of familiarity is probably part of the problem. None of us has yet grown up being taught about the safety and etiquette of bus stop byp***es.

Karl Troy @KarlTroyLondon

Reported 2022-05-25 05:17:57

@RantyHighwayman @rossatkin @briseglace @heather_m_gl*** @samclifford @lennartnout @LikeEngineer to be clear i don't disagree with Ross that we should have LTNs but the solution to the issue is in the short terms enforcement on those misbehaving and in the longer term more space for a better solution.

Ruth Fletcher 🔶 @mihe2000

Reported 2022-05-25 05:17:04

@LikeEngineer If there is a solution, a part of it is to change the cues, so that yielding feels the obvious and easy thing to do. Maybe this is down to paint, texture and geometry, maybe for busy locations, clever signals will help. Byp***es are good, maybe there's room to improve them. 5/5

Bennytron3000 @Bennitron3000

Reported 2022-05-25 05:09:23

@LikeEngineer @SpacePootler I think the key things are that a bus p***enger shouldn't have to feel they are crossing a road when they get off the bus, and that we don't know how big the problem is. On possible solution is to end the cycle path for the length of the bus stop - switch to shared use ...

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